The Human Mind

im not ignorant quit saying that lol... i just personaly dont believe in this stuff..

i think your ignorant for trying to dictate this whole thing onto me

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Proof only makes it less interesting. The more you know the less you care. Ignorance is bliss

Where do I refer to you at all? I'm being serious. That's not just a saying for no reason. The less you know, the happier you generally are. If you're wife is cheating on you, you're happier not knowing. Being ignorant. Granted it's not right...but that's how it works.

When you see a magic trick, you're awed by it. You feel like WOW how did that happen. That defies everything!!! ZOMG?!?!?! But when someone explains it to you, and you see the exact same thing in the exact same manner it's just like...meh. By not knowing you're happier.

Experiment repeated with the exact same results. Size was altered slightly to a range of 4-12 inches across. More deviation than that caused the pressure to cease. Any attempt to manipulate it or look at it in any other way caused the pressure to cease. It's interesting, and I am curious what phenomena causes it.

Don't try to figure it out. It won't be as cool or interesting if you know anymore. Just be like, wow - that shit's cool.

Jay.J wrote:

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Proof only makes it less interesting. The more you know the less you care. Ignorance is bliss

Where do I refer to you at all? I'm being serious. That's not just a saying for no reason. The less you know, the happier you generally are. If you're wife is cheating on you, you're happier not knowing. Being ignorant. Granted it's not right...but that's how it works.

When you see a magic trick, you're awed by it. You feel like WOW how did that happen. That defies everything!!! ZOMG?!?!?! But when someone explains it to you, and you see the exact same thing in the exact same manner it's just like...meh. By not knowing you're happier.

i guess im not ignorant... i like to know how tricks work so i can repeat and enhance them...

if my wife/girlfriend was cheating on me i would want to know so i could end it and find someone who was true and honest... no someone who just makes you happy at first glance.. but in the background doesnt take you seriously and is slowly tearing you apart..

Hey Jay, you should try it too. Start by curling your tongue so the bottom of it touches the top of your mouth, and make sure there are no distractions. Keep those two things constant during the entire exercise. Then, sit up straight, and breath deeply until you can hear your own heartbeat clearly. After that, put your hands out in front of you palms towards each other with your elbows down resting. Then visualize a gold ball between your hands that is heavy and you have to push your hands together very hard to hold it. But, don't actually push with your muscles. Just your mind. After your totally "intimately aware" with your gold ball, slowly start moving your hands together and visualizing shrinking it. There you go, you should feel a pressure.

I am now thinking that visualizing the pressure is probably what causes the phenomena.

search 'chi gong' on youtube to see an old 15minute chi gong excersise where you move around the chi (energy). this is basically where i learned energy and everything from.

*i also did other things, but i wont go into much detail*

I think its really cool what your mind does. But anyway, I have some more work to do tonight so I have to log off for now. Peace guys.

**sigh** you people just dont give up omg..

Bullshit is bullshit. It is however interesting to speculate at what causes the mind to produce such fallacies.

thank you dragon... if you believe in this stuff than your mind makes you feel whatever it is your feeling.. hence "figmans" of your imagination.. the heat you are feeling is not there it is just false sensory of your nerves that are recieving false images from your braing... nothing more nothing less

Sigh demonic. The fact that other people feel the heat means it's real (most likely). The fact that it's minimal means who gives a shit though.

why you sighing at me?! im stating what i believe and u call me ignorant.. if anyone is ignorant it is you for not seeing my side at all and simply saying what im saying is bullshit...

your mind DOES send false imagery to you.. these COULD be simple tricks by the mind.. the fact that you warn someone before handing them this "psi ball" could give their mind false imagery and therefor trick them aswell.. when you place the "psi ball" in a spot your mind focuses on that spot and if you touch it the mind remembers this spot and therefor THINKS its touching your "psi ball" sending just more pointless false imagery...

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why you sighing at me?! im stating what i believe and u call me ignorant.. if anyone is ignorant it is you for not seeing my side at all and simply saying what im saying is bullshit...

Again, show me where I call you ignorant in that post. Putting words in my mouth. I AGAIN, call strawman. Link is around somewhere for what it is, as I've said it before and am repeating myself.

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your mind DOES send false imagery to you.. these COULD be simple tricks by the mind.. the fact that you warn someone before handing them this "psi ball" could give their mind false imagery and therefor trick them aswell.. when you place the "psi ball" in a spot your mind focuses on that spot and if you touch it the mind remembers this spot and therefor THINKS its touching your "psi ball" sending just more pointless false imagery...

I never said it didn't. I infact, said it DID. I gave you the example of electric pulses being sent through to the persons brain. You're also flip flopping. You say it's explained by science static electricity blah blah blah. Now you're saying it's imagination. Stick to one story. You don't know what you believe. I'm going to stop arguing with you - as I keep repeating myself, and it's lost it's fun from before.

lol ive stated my point several times.. its false imagery.. imagination same damn thing.. i dont believe this stuff is reallity.. is the basic fact..

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lol ive stated my point several times.. its false imagery.. imagination same damn thing..

No. You tried to tell me it was static electricity. Don't flip flop.

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is the basic fact..

You're not backing shit up. You're giving an opinion, and BARELY backing it up. You're just speculating. I've backed my sentences up. (Note: I said sentences and not opinions,because I was messing around with you earlier)

..the basic point is that i dont believe in this...

and yes i stated that static electricity COULD be what it is

but im leaning more towards the fact that people are just thinking something is there when its not..

im just stating what im believing and you keep trying to argue it lol.. i wasnt trying to prove my point i was merely stating it and you started this forum war with me...

Your opinion isn't very backed up. (Not saying it's wrong, you just present it in a way that it's easily rebutted). My solipsism is more backed up than your current opinion, as you don't have one as you don't know - but you say whatever it is, it can't be real, and if it is real, it's explained in which case that doesn't matter if it's explained or not.

Then we got into the concept of reality, which you said nothing about, nor did you counter my reality points in any manner.

Seriously - last post about this since...it's just becoming explanation of myself instead of actual debate.

I think Jay.J deserves an adward for being the master of debates, manipulation, and confusion :S

I thus name Jay.J:

"The MasterDebater"

For obvious reasons...

Ive come to a conculsion some of what I see are eye floaters.
And yes, I said it correctly, They're called floaters.

I have them because im near sighted I'm guessing.

Eww, I know some people with floaters. That sucks.

Dragonheart91 wrote:

Eww, I know some people with floaters. That sucks.

I only see them if Im staring off into space, Not focusing directly on something. That sort of deal.
And usually only if im looking at something bright.

OH! they look like little germy things when you squint right?

(also i do not see floaters when i do the tai chi thing i just see them when i squint real hard and things)

kuro wrote:

OH! they look like little germy things when you squint right?

(also i do not see floaters when i do the tai chi thing i just see them when i squint real hard and things)

Yeah a little, They're like tiny cells. I see some that are very very small, Like a speckle, And they move fastly.
Then theres medium sized ones. That moved slowly, And there are HUGE ones that dont move, but follow my eyes wherever they go.
Its weird. :S

I think anyone can see them when they squint, or stare out a bright window.