Eh?

When you get your heros done post them here (not the map you made them on someone will thief it)
i mean post what they do and what not..

Pming me is better so ppl dont bitch about Opness and stuff....all the balancing wil be done later and ill PM you back when i get stuff done ant what not.

The problem is that in the object editor the abilities menu only allows you to select neutral hostile abilities for some reason, which is a pain. If you could tell me how to allow custom heroes to use the full standard abilities that would be great.

Edit: This isnt the hero im gunna use FYI I was just experementing with some stuff.

you need to copy n paste the abilty then paste it under custom abilties it should work then.

thx ill try it now.

ok kill remeber all the people your making heros for your responible for dumping all of it into the mesh of DOOOOOOOOOM

problem was that the base unit I was using was not "hero" so it couldn't learn hero abilities. I just made a new guy real quick and put in a custom spell using shockwave as the base but adding breath of fire to the model list and renamed it Flamewave, so its like a fiery shockwave. pretty cool. The hero is a far seer but tinted completally red and basic attack is the firelords. Called the Fire Rider. Im learning, huh?

lol thats well its lol its basic but just as effective
JASS>GUI>normal spells when it comes to pretty
but JASS=GUI=Normal when the damage is done so this will be the greatest monster of all time


AND THEN THIS :OOO
ok my hero (maybe)
Death Knight
i found an arthas undead no horse skin on the Hive
Base stat Str
Abilitys
Blood Coil-active (in short its storm bolt with a blood coil skin i found smacked on it)
Unholy Energy-active (in short its death coil with carrion swarm on it :O looks better then it sounds)
Unholy Aura- Aura (WC3's [i know im unimaginative])
Blood Fountain- Ultimate/active VEEERRRYYY simple 3 GUI triggered ulti
blood start spraying from nothing at the targeted area dealing 120 damage/second for 5 seconds
i could have done it in 1 trigger but using 3 lessened the information:OOO
NOW this is my first crack at it i might use a diffrent one

Im still working on it... and preparing for my sisters bat mitzvah... fuck.

That hero sounds semi boring. How do you prevent them from being imbalanced? The heroes that is?

Phantasm - Creates 6 images that do 100% damage, but take 500% (Instant cast) Illusions have dispersion (If learned).

Dispersion - Gives a 25% chance to disperse 100% of the incoming damage in a 500 AoE (Block damage, and spread it around in an AoE to enemies)

Knockout Thrust - Blink strikes to the target and stuns for one second. Does damage as well. (Minimal)

Shadow Hold - An illusion of the enemy is cast that holds the enemy in place. The illusion does no damage, and has as much HP as the target and takes as much damage as the target. The target can not move until it kills the shadow image. It may only attack the shadow image during this time. (The shadow image is an image of itself). Melee range.

So basically the enemy can't move until it kills an image of itself that doesn't attack and is merely a dummy unit that holds the target unit in place.

But ya, clearly this hero is imbalanced. Even with number changes. It's just not balanced and can't be. Just Dispersion/Images is win. If you attack the images, and they disperse - they just dispersed 5x the damage you did to them. For those of you who play DotA - this is Spectre when he very FIRST came out. Except with a stunning blink strike. And a Hold that can last a very long time on targets, and only allows them to get out of the hold not attack others.

You have to completely change my skills - can't balance that...so how do you deal with that?

right now mines a basic WC3 hero and if put into a ladder game the only adjustments it would need is the ulti i believe its a little underpowered
ima going to adjust it into the rule i may establish later

Stop bein a hater and let us players chill man... well figure it out, this is just for some fun this ain't gon' be released man. Were just gunna have some fun. so chill out, k?

How am I being a hater...? How can you figure it out if no one brings it up? It's not being released, fine - but if it's like even one game where everyone just plays with their heroes...and I have the hero I posted up there...It's like impossible to lose.

Blink in (You're stunned), Ulti (You're disabled), Mirror image (You get a beat down since you can't move), then if you do manage to live long enough to get out of the hold - doing any damage to my images might make it bounce 5x stronger back on you >.>.

Numbers don't even matter it's the concept of the hero that's imbalanced. Tank said he would make rules - which is good - but I don't see how he could prevent imba heroes.

oh when i set the rule people will most likely kill me so AAAAAAAAPPTHHHHHHHHF

Maybe you can make this game have such imbalanced heroes that it turns out balanced?

Hero name: Tank

Parry - Blocks X amount of damage 50% of the time Works on magic as well as physical attacks.(Passive)

Return damage - Returns 100% of the damage done to the tank to the inflicter. Both Physical and Magical damage. (Passive)

Destiny Bond - Set's a bond between the Tank and an enemy. All damage done to either target is shared 50/50 between the two.

Final Words - Does damage to the killer equal to the HP of the Tank

Rules updated

Even with those rules both my heroes are imbalanced .

rules = 1/2000 done..

Elementalist

Model-Orc Shaman or Spirit walker
Str hero, low agi, high Str/Int, Str just a little higher
Spell 1 Earthen Armor- Passively boots armor (or direct dmg reduction, like on MG). Is also an activateable skill that that causes the Hero to ignore dmg up to a certain amount, then release the dmg absorbed in an AoE. Units hit w/ AoE recieve "dust" Debuff.
Spell 2 Downpour- Creates a targeted blast of water, that goes off like Frost nova (but with an animation like Gyser) Deals dmg and adds "doused" debuff to units hit by AoE. Douse reduces move speed slightly.
Spell 3 Flaming Fists- adds DoT to attacks, small, but stacks over multiple hits up to a certain number of stacks. levels add Dmg per tick. Debuff called "On fire"
Ultimate/Spell 4 Call of Thunder- Lightning strike a target unit, Dealing AoE dmg based on proximity to center of AoE. adds "Charged" debuff

Now the trickness comes in. Every spell interacts with other spells, by means of debuffs. If a unit has more than one debuff at any one time, they are both removed, and a new effect is created.

Douse+On fire= Creates debuff-Steam, slows target by more than Douse, and deals slightly reduced dmg over time compared to On fire

Dust+Douse= Creates a weak mud golem, that fights for the hero.

Douse+Charged= The unit becomes the target of an automatic Call of Thunder

On Fire+Dust= creates debuff- Magma, which reduces armor, and deals dmg over time, slightly more dmg comparative to On Fire

On fire+Charged= creates dubuff- Static prison, basically entangling roots

Dust+Charged= Counter Polarity- Banishes the target

IM IN.. WANT A MINION!!

lets set some base rules... e.g. 25 levels max, 1str to 19hp, somewhere around 50 starting dmg... 300ms... 4 levels per skill... that kind of thing.


arcane ninja (still coming up with a 'name'):
(model is a demon hunter, also i use energy, spirit, etc interchangingly, unsure if agi or int should be primary.)

-arcane intellect[passive, innate ability]: ninja has this ability to start with. gets a bonus .25mana regen per level... or +1 int per level... something to help mana, either mana regen, mana boost, or +intellect. tbd.

-spirit shred[passive]: shreds off part of a target's spiritual essence with each strike, dealing damage according to spirit shredded. over time, spirit energy builds up in the surrounding area. more spirit shredded per level. damage and energy built up proportionate to spirit shredded.

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-phase walk[active]: using arcane energies the ninja travels at speeds so extreme that time is bent and copies of himself are left behind, which attack any enemy that happens to come by.

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absorbtion[active, channeling]: absorbs spirit energy from the surrounding area, replenishing the ninja's own reserves. (tbd) the ninja needs to channel for the full effect, e.g. at the first second 50% would be absorbed, then 80%, then at 3 seconds 100%. max of X absorbed.

arcane sphere[active, buff]: the ninja charges up an sphere of arcane energies. can be charged for up to 3 seconds. charges faster and is stronger if spirit energies are present (absorbs them). becomes a buff after channeling stopped.

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ULTIMATE: arcane implosion[active channeling]: creates a time flux in an area around the ninja. every unit in the area is slowed by 85% as and ms (slowing all of this also slows their spell cast time i believe). while being channeled, all spirit energies are drawn in. after a point of about 1-1.5 seconds the real effect kicks in...

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well that took a while

kuro, that's 6, i thought max was 4 including ult?

well idk! im just putting some out there lol!

btw 1 is an innate, since i thought we might have innate abilities.

e.g. 'bob the streetfighter's innate might be +1dmg/level or something idk.
innates give every hero +uniqueness without having to go through a bunch skill levels and JASSing. short sweet and simple.

Ridiculously overpowered heroes is fine. I like that style in games like Anime Fight. BUT, you have to be careful and make sure that you severely limit stunning abilities and things. Having ridiculous damage and (to a lesser extent) defense is ok, but when a game is that fast paced, disables become broken.

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Ridiculously overpowered heroes is fine. I like that style in games like Anime Fight. BUT, you have to be careful and make sure that you severely limit stunning abilities and things. Having ridiculous damage and (to a lesser extent) defense is ok, but when a game is that fast paced, disables become broken.

Have you looked at my first heroes ultimate? It's a snare but ridiculously OP on tanks, not so much on low HP damage dealers though. But ya, anime fight is the kind of game where everything is so OP that the game is balanced (Except a few heroes like Gaara or Sango).