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RapidFireOmega
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PostSubject: Re: Spore   Spore - Page 4 EmptyMon Sep 15, 2008 10:14 pm

Exactly.
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PostSubject: Re: Spore   Spore - Page 4 EmptyMon Sep 15, 2008 10:15 pm

meh thats what they want you to think.. but they will hax into your computer and download gay porn and viruses to your pc and pirate their own game on your computer so your pc goes to hell and they can sue you for piracy...

get my point?
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PostSubject: Re: Spore   Spore - Page 4 EmptyMon Sep 15, 2008 10:34 pm

RapidFireOmega wrote:
And wtf is with this DRM that they've put into the game, installing a freakin spyware rootkit to your harddrive that is unremovable and keeps track of all of your comp usage to sell to other companies, as well as limiting your disk to 3 installs.
I can assure you that unless my search engine blows dick, I have no spyware on my computer.

Wikipedia wrote:
As of September 12th, 2008, there were 2,202 reviews (91% of all reviews) with a single star out of five rating. A vast majority of these comments cite SecuROM as the main reason for the low rating.

There's your reason why you see all low ratings.


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PostSubject: Re: Spore   Spore - Page 4 EmptyMon Sep 15, 2008 10:35 pm

I can tell you exactly where it can be found on your harddrive, if you give me 10 seconds...
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PostSubject: Re: Spore   Spore - Page 4 EmptyMon Sep 15, 2008 10:36 pm

Ill have this downloaded around this time tomorow. D:
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PostSubject: Re: Spore   Spore - Page 4 EmptyMon Sep 15, 2008 10:38 pm

Not sure exactly what version Spore utilizes, so...

SecuROM v1.x–v3.x
One of the following files should exist in the installed directory (Depending on the operating system) or in the root of the original CDs:

CMS16.DLL
CMS_95.DLL
CMS_NT.DLL.
The protection can also be recognized by DADC on the inside ring of the CD. DADC is a CD manufacturing plant; the more recent SecuROM protected games are also pressed in other plants. Open the main executable using a hex editor and search for the following ASCII text (it should appear twice): CMS


SecuROM v4.6
The protection modifies a CD-ROM's q-channel in order to make a protected original distinguishable from a copy.

A set of nine locations where the Q-Channel is purposely destroyed is computed by the following function (demonstrated as Python code), using a vendor specific key.

BadSQ = 0x0
VendorKey = [0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0]
Seed = [0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0]
BadSQTable = [0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0]
round = 0
for a in range (0,256):
BadSQ = BadSQ + (VendorKey[a % 9] & 0x1F) + 0x20
for b in range (0,9):
if (Seed[b] == a):
BadSQTable[round] = BadSQ
round += 1

# VendorKey[], Seed[] and BadSQ are initialized to secret values.
# Possible optimizations were omitted to reflect the original implementation.
The function calculates nine sector numbers; if the corresponding Q-channel is not readable at these locations, the CD is considered being original. Note that the key is always the same for all titles issued by a specific vendor, resulting in identical Q-channel patterns. Also note that every key has 134,217,727 "twins" that will produce an identical BadSQTable.


SecuROM v4.7 and above

Unlike SecuROM v4.6, which relied on non-compliant SubQ-Information, the new scheme utilizes "data density measurement" (not to be confused with "data position measurement" as being used by other protections). While the data density on normal CD/DVD-ROMs constantly degrades from the most inner to the most outer sector, data density on SecuROM v4.7 (and up) protected CD/DVD-ROMs is diversified by a certain, vendor specific pattern. This pattern can be reconstructed by high-precision time measurement during software<->CD/DVD-drive interaction and reflects the vendor-key as mentioned above.

To do so the protection defines a set of locations spread over the disc and issue two SCSI-read-commands per location to the drive. As the disc spins, the time it takes for the second command to return depends on the time it takes the disc to do a full round and thus depends on the data-density. To achieve the required timing-precision, the RDTSC instruction is used, which typically has a resolution better than 0.01 microseconds.

The pattern is made up from 72 locations, each either with normal or higher than normal density and thus reflects a binary pattern which assembles to the vendor specific key mentioned above.

SecuROM v4.84 and beyond includes "Trigger Functions" which allow the developer to program multiple and fully customizable authentication checks throughout the entire application. As the protection places itself between the application's code and the OS, it can alter the behaviour of selected system functions.

Consider the following pseudocode:

if (GetCurrentDate() == '13-32-2999') then
WorkCorrectly()
else
PreventProgramUse()
end if
Obviously, a "normal" GetCurrentDate() function will never return '13-32-2999'. However, as SecuROM can modify the function's result, the application can check for the protection's presence during runtime; if the protection has been removed, the function will return with some other valid value, giving the application the opportunity to display an error message or render the application unusable (e.g. provoking a crash to desktop, making enemies invincible).

There are many different ways how "triggers" can be integrated into a program, making it much more complicated to universally circumvent the protection.
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PostSubject: Re: Spore   Spore - Page 4 EmptyMon Sep 15, 2008 10:38 pm

rofl your crazy if you think ima read all that...
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PostSubject: Re: Spore   Spore - Page 4 EmptyMon Sep 15, 2008 10:39 pm

Not you, Sin. I'm sure he'll be intersted.
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PostSubject: Re: Spore   Spore - Page 4 EmptyMon Sep 15, 2008 10:40 pm

oh thanks now your not talking to me anymore...

lol actualy i couldn't care less.. ive been posting way to much tonight... my fingers are aching..
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PostSubject: Re: Spore   Spore - Page 4 EmptyMon Sep 15, 2008 10:41 pm

They're smart, but it's not in the cracked versions. Crackers are naturally 10x smarter than the creators.
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PostSubject: Re: Spore   Spore - Page 4 EmptyMon Sep 15, 2008 10:43 pm

Oh of course there not in the cracked versions. I forgot you had a cracked version, sry. The Securom rootkit is embedded on the disk, so you wouldn't have a problem.
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PostSubject: Re: Spore   Spore - Page 4 EmptyMon Sep 15, 2008 10:46 pm

Exactly. I truly hope that you'll consider getting the cracked version.
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PostSubject: Re: Spore   Spore - Page 4 EmptyMon Sep 15, 2008 10:49 pm

You know, I don't do cracked versions like that. There's always been something unsettling about them to me.
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PostSubject: Re: Spore   Spore - Page 4 EmptyMon Sep 15, 2008 10:51 pm

oh jeeze rapid.. your not one of those "mature" gamers are you?! eww..
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PostSubject: Re: Spore   Spore - Page 4 EmptyMon Sep 15, 2008 10:52 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Spore   Spore - Page 4 EmptyMon Sep 15, 2008 10:53 pm

"mature" meaning you dont hack.. glitch.. you always report people to the big guys who own the game..
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PostSubject: Re: Spore   Spore - Page 4 EmptyMon Sep 15, 2008 10:53 pm

ill trust EA more then ill trusted a cracked version of anything
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PostSubject: Re: Spore   Spore - Page 4 EmptyMon Sep 15, 2008 10:53 pm

He thinks that you think you're too good for cracked versions, and try to stick by the "mature" rules of game purchasing and our economy.
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PostSubject: Re: Spore   Spore - Page 4 EmptyMon Sep 15, 2008 10:54 pm

SinisteRing wrote:
He thinks that you think you're too good for cracked versions, and try to stick by the "mature" rules of game purchasing and our economy.

this is a better way of saying what i said above..

so look at this one... Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Spore   Spore - Page 4 EmptyMon Sep 15, 2008 10:55 pm

I do like to support good game companies, such as blizzard, but EA does suck balls and Maxis... I dont even know. But my comp has been having MASSIVE issues lately (it crashes an average of twice a day) and ive been trying to fix it and its hopeless so I dont know if I want to screw it up any more. However, I am strongly considering it.
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PostSubject: Re: Spore   Spore - Page 4 EmptyMon Sep 15, 2008 10:56 pm

good sin we are turning him to the dark side of the game... yes yes let the hate flow through you.. the hate to defy companies like EA and maxis... all is going according to plan...
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PostSubject: Re: Spore   Spore - Page 4 EmptyMon Sep 15, 2008 10:58 pm

at this point i don' feel bad getting hacked vers of some games, but my problem isn't w/ the security software (i tried on a cracked ver, no avail). I would never hack Blizzard, i love them. EA, however i have no qualms against hacking them, as they eat other companies, and have terrible tech support...
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PostSubject: Re: Spore   Spore - Page 4 EmptyMon Sep 15, 2008 11:01 pm

i wouldn't download a cracked version of a blizzard game either as i greatly adore andlove them.. i do however hack some in their games... or atleast used too.. i havnt hacked wc3 in a few months.. and i havnt hacked sc in a couple years as i havnt played it since then... so you know i guess we will find out how "mature" i am with sc2...
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PostSubject: Re: Spore   Spore - Page 4 EmptyMon Sep 15, 2008 11:02 pm

I... I don't really know what to say... It feels good... All this power... I feel... stronger...The power... It courses through my veins...The hate...The hate makes me stronger...I feel powerful... I...I...

*RapidFireOmega suddenly looks towards Demonic_iTunes, clutches a fist and lifts it. Demonic_iTunes is lifted into the air by some unseen dark PSI force, gripping his throat as if he is choking. After a few seconds, he goes limp and falls to the ground.*

The transformation is complete.
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PostSubject: Re: Spore   Spore - Page 4 EmptyMon Sep 15, 2008 11:05 pm

HAHAHA you wish you could kill me through this computerized forum... lmao
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